Is my dreamgoal impossible?

So I have a dream goal. I mean the only one and this is the reason I started lucid dreaming. It's kinda personal in a way but I tried to talk to "myself" if it was a dream character. I had a lucid dream a week ago. I was in a beautiful garden with flowers and a pond but I was locked in so to speak. I couldn't go anywhere besides that place. I know my dream controll is not good yet but I tried to find that character. I went in to a dark tiny forest that garden had. And I found tiny fairies. They basically told me it's not possible and it doesn't exist. But not exactly word by word. I am still really disapointed and I don't know if it's true or not. I almost want to give up but I'm still hopeful at least a bit. Because I don't care about fun. I just want to find that "thing", my thoughts what has been burried inside for a long time. Is this really not possible? Am I chasing a dream that is twaddle and hype? It was really important for me. Sorry if I'm a little emotional about it. And please don't judge me... I literally don't know my own mind.

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Unknown member

May 14, 2020

I'm not sure I fully understand your goal. That you want to talk to yourself? A lot of people try to do this in dreams, due to Waggoner's "awareness behind the dream" idea. Personally, I think that the awareness behind the dream is total malarky, (for reasons you can read in my article here on site) however, that's not to say that the spirit of it is totally off base. That is to say that, I think, when people want to communicate with themselves or their subconscious in a dream, what they're really trying to do is to make some sort of unconscious information become conscious. So is that possible? I think it is, yes, but I would be very skeptical of people who say that you can trust what your dreams seem to tell you. Dreams, lucid or not, are often full of wild imagings and things which have no descriptive power about the reality of who you are. Though, on the other hand we've all had those dreams where we went to bed without romantic feelings for someone, had a dream about them, and then woke up smitten with that person. This is a clear example of unconscious information becoming conscious via dreams. It *is* possible. But is it likely, and can it be relied upon? This is a separate and more nuanced question which is up for debate. This is actually a topic that I spend about 80 pages in my book talking about, because it's incredibly important to get to the bottom of it if lucid dreams are ever to be implemented as a valid therapy. It's not out yet, but if this is something you're interested in, I'll likely be making a post here on the forum when my book becomes available. Otherwise, I say be skeptical about what your dreams tell you, even those fairies, and make sure that what you seem to learn about yourself in dreams maps onto reality before you accept it as true. Hope I've answered this appropriately.

Kis Viktória

May 14, 2020

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Yes! Thank you so much. I wiil look forward to that book and I'm really interested in that topic I would really appreciate if you'd make that post. Also I didn't read Waggoner's book. I just have mental health issues and I want to try to "help" myself. However I know It's impossible to cure it. I went to a professional and talked about it but they just gave me medication and I was in there for about 2 mins. So I didn't fully trust their diagnoses. Anyway.. just wanted to clarify this. Also I watched the team lucid dream channel recently and I don't remember his name but the guy with hallucinations also did this. Now I don't have this luckily but I wanted to try this. Maybe could help me too if I could speak to my deeper self or I don't know.

Unknown member

May 14, 2020

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@Kis Viktória Half way through your message, before you mentioned him, I was going to recommend that you check out Maxwell Hunter's work on YouTube, where he goes by TheRaRaRabbit. He is definitely doing some important work in regards to mental health and lucid dreaming. He does have a unique diagnosis and I suspect that the ways in which he finds lucid dreaming useful may be quite unique to him, considering Dissociative Identity Disorder is thought to be different aspects of one's personality expressed in different voices that speak to them. For him, it seems like speaking to these different personalities in dreams does allow him to understand the voices better and help him with mental health. I consider Max to be one of the exceptions to the rule of not trusting what your dreams tell you, since his voices do have such well-formed personalities. I'm not sure what your diagnosis is and I don't want to ask you to publicly share it here, but if it's anything like Max's you may have more luck than most do with asking for answers from your dreams. However, I do think lucid dreams can be beneficial for mental health in a variety of ways, but I wouldn't recommend that anyone tries to use lucid dreams as a substitute to what their mental health professionals recommend. Instead, I say use lucid dreams as something supplemental to what work you are already doing to be well in waking life. Anything that you can do in lucid dreams that makes you feel better is fine, but when it comes to seeking out answers to your problems, I hope you'll keep in mind that most of us can't always, or even a majority of the time, trust what dreams tell us. If you feel like you get an especially big answer, I say it's a reason to work extra hard to make sure that can be trusted, in waking life, before you start operating with the belief that the info is true. So long as you don't follow every whim of your dreams and start to believe everything they say are true, I don't think lucid dreaming can hurt unless you start intentionally using it in self-destructive ways. Hope this helps in some way.

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